I started these eons ago. I am finally going to get back to them, I really would like another finished pair of socks to wear. I think that I will make these about the same length as a typical crew sock. I usually go with ankle socks because I like ankle length socks (also cus I get lazy and just finish it as soon as possible). But I found them today when I was reorganizing our room and decided enough is enough! So I will be ignoring everything else until I finish these blasted socks.